Mike Watt Gibson EB3 bass
Gibson EB3s
FlyGuitars So how many EB3 basses have you owned?
Mike Watt My first bass was a Gibson EB-3L slot head, early 70's. I actually conked out in a gig, fell back, passed out and snapped the neck. I used it on the first Minutemen EP (Paranoid Time). I gave it to Flea, and ten years ago when he was moving between houses, someone broke into his storage shed and stole it. It had "Pedro" painted on the front of it.
I now own two EB-3s, I found one on E Bay and they tried to make it into a 6 string. Pulled the fucking neck right off. I had to put pins where the neck joined the body. I left that with the Stooges when I was touring in November and December, So when I was flying back and forth I did not have to bring the bass. One thing I didn't like about the EB-3 is the neck pickup is too, ah, close to the neck. Too woofy sounding. So what I did was I put a pickup in, I got the proportion scale, like where a pickup is on a P bass and put a pickup there on both of them. The Red one has a Lane Poor; they do not make them anymore. It's like a soap bar with blades so you don't have to worry about the pole piece thing.
FlyGuitars The strings lining up?
Mike Watt right and then the hole where the neck pickup was, my fingers kept on getting stuck there so I put a metal plate over it, (laughs) O.K.?
There was always a mismatch between the neck and bridge pickups. I saw pictures of Jack Bruce where he had two neck pickups. Yeah, I held that fucking bass, yeah, Bruce Gary, before he died, well this was in the 90's. Some guy took me to the house, he had the bass. He had traded Bruce a Chapman stick for it! It had a letter and he showed me the Albert Hall video, and it had a neck pickup in the bridge and in the neck. It played great and it had flats - what a bass, man.
With EB-3's, maybe the windings or the magnets, they were always mismatched, so when you used a preamp it buffered. The one thing I like is one volume knob. I like blending the pickups, but when you have two volumes, as soon as you go down or up, you loose your blend, so I like one volume knob and a blend control. So the chicken head knob, I turned that into a blend control and then one of the volumes is the volume and the other three knobs are bass, mid and treble. So that's how I got it set up. Both my Red and blue EB-3s have Aguilar OBP3 onboard preamps. I changed the guts to get rid of some of that muddiness.
FlyGuitars What Kind of Bridges of you use?
Mike Watt One's got a Badass and the red one has a Schaller. I like the Schaller because it's got round saddles. The Badass is pointy and with the Schaller it's harder to break strings. It's a great bridge. The blue one had like fiber plastic saddles.
FlyGuitars Nylon?
Mike Watt Yeah, nylon, that's it, bullshit! But the 61/62 had a one piece like my EB-2. Man those had no intonation.
One thing I haven't touched on that makes Gibsons different is (except for the Grabber & Ripper) Gibson's are mahogany! There's something about mahogany, there's a warm roundness, maybe not as much definition as a maple neck. There's a character I get from my Thunderbird and EB-3s. I really like the sound of the mahogany. Not many people have tried mahogany with basses. I don't like the EB-3s from the 70's. Something about it, but they sound bad. On the Stooges tour, my EB-3's headstock broke off shipped from Australia. I played an Epiphone one they got me one; It was a black one, it played pretty good, but the sound was......
There's something about old wood. They were also solid (the original EB-3s), not this laminate stuff (Epiphone).
FlyGuitars Do you plan on continuing to play your EB-3's?
Mike Watt You bet man. I love it and the Stooges love me playing it.
FlyGuitars It has a vibe totally unlike any other bass. It seems like today most basses try to emulate the Fender sound so every bass sounds the same.
Mike Watt Either that or they go for the Alembic sound, which sound like pianos. I like the character of the Gibson. It has it's own trip. I also like the way the body sits on you. You don't have this big horn and oh man, it's light, not just the neck but the smallness of the body kinda helps me too.
So the cut outs there, makes it easy to finger the neck up there really well. I really like it. The ergonomics are very happening. The 70's ones had these giant headstocks and were so unbalanced.
I like the small headstock. Those pickups are dead and they weigh a ton (70's EB-3s). One of the settings would sound really thin, out of phase, like a Rickenbacker, oh man.
FlyGuitars I think that was the Choke?
Mike Watt Yeah the choke, really trebly thin sounding and not much use for it at all. Laughs. I just turned that into a blend thing. I like the blend trip and like I said, one volume. I can maintain my blend no matter what volume I'm working at. I also don't think they had to put the big plastic ring around the pickup. Why'd they do that?
You know when Les Claypole saw me first play the EB-3; he goes "Watt, that's the bass, man, that's your sound coming out". He plays all these very high end, custom made basses with all these stripes and he was like, "that's the bass, that's the bass for you man, that's the sound I like, what's coming out of there".
FlyGuitars Sometimes you don't need these coffee table basses to sound good.
Mike Watt (Laughs hysterically) Yeah.
Thanks to John (Redbird) Fertig and Mike Watt for making this interview possible, and to Peter Whitfield for use of some great Photos
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